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Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds [message #3532 is a reply to message #3530]

Wed, 09 April 2014 02:23

C. Hurt
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Registered: May 2013

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Mikey is correct in his understanding. You can also see the difference from the train side. The different layouts also require a reversal of the position of the barrel and the fourth wheel. The ratchet wheel is at 3 in a hunter movement, 12 in a Lepine (open faced) movement. With a little practice you can recognize them from the back.

Not sure it has anything to do with the composition of the dial, I rather think it was the protection of the crystal that early watch designers were worried about.

Originally most watches were hunters. Jean Antoine Lepine pioneered the open faced configuration in order to achieve a thinner watch, both with the movement and the case. By the end of the 19th century, hunters were seen as old fashioned, and open face watches were in style. This lasted until the end of the pocketwatch period.

When ladies pendant watches were applied to wristwatches, the nomenclature came with them, so we still refer movements with the traditional wristwatch layout (seconds at 6) as hunters.

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		Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds - SOLD By: afire on Fri, 04 April 2014 22:02
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: Gary on Sat, 05 April 2014 02:03
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Sat, 05 April 2014 05:10
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		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: Timeticker on Mon, 07 April 2014 13:05
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: Gary on Tue, 08 April 2014 00:55
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: Timeticker on Tue, 08 April 2014 01:07
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Tue, 08 April 2014 03:39
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: afire on Tue, 08 April 2014 15:59
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Tue, 08 April 2014 20:21
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: mikey on Tue, 08 April 2014 20:56
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Tue, 08 April 2014 23:04
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: mikey on Wed, 09 April 2014 00:59
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: C. Hurt on Wed, 09 April 2014 02:23
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: afire on Wed, 09 April 2014 02:41
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: C. Hurt on Wed, 09 April 2014 02:56
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Wed, 09 April 2014 06:08
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: afire on Wed, 09 April 2014 14:40
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Wed, 09 April 2014 14:45
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: afire on Wed, 09 April 2014 16:16
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Wed, 09 April 2014 19:35
		Re: Circa 1925 14k Green Gold Gruen Cushion with Sweep Seconds By: mikey on Wed, 09 April 2014 21:11
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