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Cartouche 367 Orne [message #18979]

Sun, 30 June 2024 20:40

Jenneke
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Location: Netherlands

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Model name: car 367
Type: cartouche
Period/date: 1929
Gender: ladies

Case Maker: wadsworth
Case Material: 14k gold filled reinforced with extra gold. Black and green enamel.
Case Serial: 5355027
Case Style no: 63

Caliber: 153 (gruen guild 4 adj 15 jewels)
Movement Maker: m favre
Movement Serial: 1325346

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Re: Cartouche 367 Orne [message #18980 is a reply to message #18979]

Sun, 30 June 2024 20:53

Jenneke
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Location: Netherlands

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I had hoped to show a very pretty watch… but she is in the making. First two pictures above are from the seller.

To do list:
- new crystal ✅
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- fill some black enamel ✅
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- dial clean ✅
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- coa movement ⛔️
Some parts are stuck. Rust holds them :(
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And its the three screw crown wheel version. Dont have spares for that. Right now its bathing in WD40.

I will update this post when the watch is ready. A nice sport strap in the making too. I havent found an original clasp for it. Any tips are welcome.

Is it an orne? For sure it is on the orne page in the gruen guild book. I would say yes, the enamel makes it an Orne. But the difference between the gold and reinforced models, is that the solid got an orne number and the reinforced a cartouche number. Weird.

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Re: Cartouche 367 Orne [message #18982 is a reply to message #18980]

Mon, 01 July 2024 04:21

JackW
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Nice to see someone with a restoration in progress.

What are you using for the "enamel"?

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Re: Cartouche 367 Orne [message #18984 is a reply to message #18982]

Mon, 01 July 2024 04:31

Jenneke
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Registered: May 2013
Location: Netherlands

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I use acrylic paint. That is also what I use for an “antique finish”.

In theory you could add some enamel and melt it. And make it al shiny new and fresh again. But.. that is way out of my skills league.

The paint probably wont survive another 100 years, but is an optical (and kinda reversible) solution.

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