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Re: Caliber 515SS [message #17340 is a reply to message #17336] |
Fri, 23 September 2022 12:20   |
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Barney Green
Messages: 1755 Registered: February 2014 Location: Wolfsburg, Germany
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I'd assume that the ebauche was delivered to Alpina as well and probably by accident Gruen got an already Alpina marked base plate. Also possible that Alpina had cancelled an order while Gruen needed more movements and accepted the Alpina marked plates. At that time the two companies had long separated and did not work together at all.
Gruen, Gruen, Gruen ist alles was ich habe... Gruen, Gruen, Gruen is all I have...(German folklore song)
[Updated on: Fri, 23 September 2022 12:21] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Caliber 515SS [message #17341 is a reply to message #17340] |
Fri, 23 September 2022 16:58   |
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Ephemerald
Messages: 1039 Registered: October 2018 Location: City of Lake Salt
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Barney Green wrote on Fri, 23 September 2022 06:20I'd assume that the ebauche was delivered to Alpina as well and probably by accident Gruen got an already Alpina marked base plate. Also possible that Alpina had cancelled an order while Gruen needed more movements and accepted the Alpina marked plates. At that time the two companies had long separated and did not work together at all.
Hi Bernd. Would you then know the Alpina equivalent calibre number? I'd really like to take a look at it.
Ok thanks for feedback. Your theories make sense. While I understand that Alpina and Gruen were not known to be connected in this period, I thought it could be possibility...but still this movement Dan is referencing still interest me.
Check this out, upon closer inspection, in fact there does seem to be some mark on my movement in almost the exact same spot as Dan's Alpina mark🤷♀️ Just thought that was interesting too

Matthias
[Updated on: Fri, 23 September 2022 17:19] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Caliber 515SS [message #17350 is a reply to message #17347] |
Mon, 26 September 2022 17:23   |
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Barney Green
Messages: 1755 Registered: February 2014 Location: Wolfsburg, Germany
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Probably I should also post info about my 515SS based watch. Mine is style # 047, case serial number is 4975, so probably pretty early. It is a 1957 Super Gruen Pilot, also completely marked France on case, dial and movement. It is Strap 007, and therewith has the license to kill, most likely with the Radium lume...
No hint on the case maker at all.
Gruen, Gruen, Gruen ist alles was ich habe... Gruen, Gruen, Gruen is all I have...(German folklore song)
[Updated on: Mon, 26 September 2022 17:28] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Caliber 515SS [message #17351 is a reply to message #17350] |
Mon, 26 September 2022 19:39   |
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Ephemerald
Messages: 1039 Registered: October 2018 Location: City of Lake Salt
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Barney, Case-
Thanks for the feedback and data. One company that I am considering is LIP montres. They have a known Gruen connection from 30's. They made stainless cases in 60's. They also used this Jeambrun ebauche 26D extensively, as D26. Other similarities as well such as outside caseback stamps.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203115101726
I have yet to find the Alpina version.
Matthias
[Updated on: Mon, 26 September 2022 21:16] Report message to a moderator
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