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Plate 26E [message #14862]

Thu, 13 May 2021 21:00

Jenneke
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Registered: May 2013
Location: Netherlands

Gruen Authority

Model name: plate 26-E - Tonneau style
Type: ribbon wristwatch
Period/date: 1918 - ?
Gender: female

Case Maker: unknown
Case Material: 14kt green gold
Case Serial: 58
Case Style no: not on case, but in gruen guild book description - OS2

Caliber: 101 (15 jewels, 4 adjts)
Movement Maker:
Movement Serial: -

Bracelet: GF Bruner-Ritter with Bretton’s famous supermatic safety catch (pat pending 1947). To open, simply slide it in the direction of the wybert shape and lift up.

Other: the case serial is inside the case and on the back of the dial. “Exploded” roman dial. Platinized or silver.

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You can only waste time if you forget to enjoy it - Loesje

[Updated on: Fri, 14 May 2021 07:14]

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Re: Plate 26E [message #14868 is a reply to message #14862]

Sat, 15 May 2021 15:01

Case
Messages: 1178
Registered: May 2019
Location: Cincinnati

Gruen Authority

Hey--nice watch! And great pics, too!

There'll be a serial number under the dial, but maybe of lesser interest to most except for crazy folks like me. If it's ever serviced, it would be also interesting to see markings on the dial back. No "Switzerland" stamped on the dial (which looks all original), consistent with this being imported as a complete watch.

Is it just me, or is there a second case number? There's the "58" stamped everywhere... but also an 11: in roman numerals on the inner bezel, in roman numerals on caseback bottom right, and in arabic numerals on caseback top right. Perhaps even on the dial back, but I can't tell

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Re: Plate 26E [message #14870 is a reply to message #14868]

Sat, 15 May 2021 15:46

Jenneke
Messages: 2038
Registered: May 2013
Location: Netherlands

Gruen Authority

That strap is great too! Not original but sits nice and light weighted on the wrist.

I agree, nothing that suggest it had Switzerland on the dial. If I ever dare to remove the dial or when it gets a service... you will get your pictures.

I noticed the XI or IX in the case when I posted the pictures. And now I see the 11 too. Nothing on the visible parts of the dial (its dirt). Maybe roman from the case maker and stamped number when the dial was fitted. My silver cartouche might have a second number too (9). Peculiar.

You can only waste time if you forget to enjoy it - Loesje

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Re: Plate 26E [message #14874 is a reply to message #14870]

Sun, 16 May 2021 01:54

Case
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Registered: May 2019
Location: Cincinnati

Gruen Authority

The strap is a nice one!

Perhaps 11 is the piece number in the run? Let's say Gruen ordered XX pieces from the supplier, 20 for example, and this could be the 11th. But I guess the bezel number could be a 9 (IX), which lines up with the dial position. XI on the back does not line up, but the other 11 does. Peculiar indeed!

The 58 being also stamped on the dial is very curious. Not sure if I've seen that before.

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